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Bye Bye American Express Business Platinum?

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Written by Dustin

The hefty fee on my American Express Business Platinum was due, I was fully prepared to cancel. Was American Express able to convince me to keep it?

Well, the time had finally come for my American Express Platinum to be renewed. I had been very adamant about closing my American Express Business Platinum. Was there anything American Express could do to sway me?

Bye Bye American Express Business Platinum?

Last January, I opened the American Express Business Platinum when it had a 100,000 point bonus. The bonus alone was worth the $450 fee and it had some great perks I would take advantage of during my 2017 travels.

At one point, I even wrote, why I would absolutely cancel my American Express Business Platinum. As I do with every single card that has a fee, I call looking for a retention offer. You never know what offer is out there and if you don’t ask, you won’t get one.

Reasons to Cancel:

American Express definitely didn’t help themselves when they changes some of the benefits on this card.

The 50% Rebate:

This was the one benefit that actually made me consider keeping this card long term. Since I typically travel with my wife, this pretty much made it a “Buy one get one” deal each time I used this benefit.

Part way through 2017, this was reduced to 35%, but if you had opened the Business Platinum by a certain time you’d receive the 50% rebate for the year. Luckily, I was in that group of people.

Once the year was over though, the 35% rebate wasn’t as appealing and since I don’t redeem for premium cabins, I actually come out ahead using other cards.

Rebate Time to Post:

There was a time, after you would redeem your 50% rebate your point would be back in your account in a few days. Then American Express changes their terms and they would take 6 to 10 weeks for the points to post.

From my experience, they definitely went on the side of 10 weeks and not 6 weeks. By making this change they further restricted how you could redeem, beyond the 500,000 point limit per year.

Unless you have a boatload of Membership Reward points in your account, they pretty much restricted you to 5 to 8 redemptions per year, maxing out the rebate at 500,000 points. Since I fly coach, I don’t mind the 500,000 point limit, but I do hate waiting 10 weeks for my points to make another booking.

But this is American Express’s world, and I play by their rules to earn my travel.

Cumbersome Airline Credit:

While many of the other “premium” travel cards have a travel credit, which gives customers more options. American Express loves to stick with the outdated Airline Credit, which reduces options.

While I used my Delta credits, it would be great if American Express would finally enter the world where it is a travel credit.

Also, the airline credit was the same airline as the airline you would choose for the 50% rebate. What if I wanted them to be different? I was out of luck.

I also believe the airline credit is prepaying your travel and for those who subtract it from their annual fee, I think that is wrong.

Mediocre Customer Service:

I had to contact American Express a few times regarding my Business Platinum card and was completely underwhelmed.

While banks like Chase, or even Citi were more positive, American Express didn’t have that same attitude. For a card that cost me $450, I would have hoped for a better interaction when I had to deal with any representatives.

Benefits from Other Cards:

Some of the benefits I used most often with my Business Platinum:

  1. Lounge Access
  2. GoGo Wifi Passes.

I have been staying at Airbnb more frequently and while I used my SPG Gold membership once, it wasn’t a “must have” benefit for me.

Back to lounge access…

I applied for the Hilton Surpass last year, which is now the American Express Ascend. This card comes with 10 Priority Pass lounge passes. I am still in my waived annual fee year, and I have a free night coming after the fee is due. So for the next 2ish years, I’ll have access to lounges for about $95 total.

The 10 free passes is the equivalent of the Priority Pass Standard Plus package which is $249, for the year. I will be paying $95 for 20 passes. This also won’t restrict me to 1 free guest (before charging me) like the Business Platinum did. Once I use my 10 free passes per year, then it starts to charge me

This made the American Express card expendable, since it wasn’t the only card I had with lounge access, and it being a fraction of the cost.

I liked the Delta SkyLounge, but it wasn’t worth $450, in my opinion.

Onto GoGo Wifi Passes:

Last week, I told you about my experience applying for a US Bank Card. The other day, my Flexperks Travel Rewards card came in the mail (I always get excited to see a new credit card in my mailbox).

The US Bank Flexperk Travel Rewards Credit Card comes with 12 GoGo Wifi passes, which is 2 more than the Business Platinum.

The annual fee on my Flexperks credit card is also waived for the first year. The annual fee is $49 per year and that might be worth paying just for the Wifi Passes alone.

A 24 hour GoGo WiFi pass is $16 per pass. I have 12 of them, which would cost $192 if I were to pay for them. Once the annual fee hits, I am paying about $3.75 per pass.

For a total of $144 per year (after my fee free years are through) I get similar benefits to the overpriced Business Platinum. And this saves me about $300 a year in the annual fee department, which I like.

Retention Offer Call:

Like I do with all cards with fees, I called to see what offers could be on my account.

After going through the reasons I was looking to cancel, the representative told me there was one offer on my account, but it wasn’t a cash offer. I’m sure many of you would be happy with point, just I would be.

The amazing retention offer was 5,000 Membership Reward points. After a quick laugh and said I was all set and to close the account.

I used the card for the benefits, not to put real spending on. I have better cards for real spending.

After being read the disclosure my account was closed.

Interesting Discovery:

In January, I was looking to use my 50% rebate one more time before I cancelled the card. I used my benefits to book 2 tickets to Athens (which in total cost 56k points).

American Express told me that even if I canceled my card, I would still receive my rebate. I was worried at first, but I had it in writing.

The same day I closed my Business Platinum, I was checking my American Express accounts and I saw my 50% rebate posted the same day I closed my account.

I had made my booking about 30 days before I closed my account, so this was faster than their 6 to 10 week period. Could it have been coincidence? Sure, but I have a feeling the second I canceled my account, American Express released the points back to my account.

I am wondering if this has happened to others as well. Please let me know in the comments if it has.


I’ve said it once and I’ll say it again, American Express has fallen behind their competitors when it comes to their credit cards. American Express made some large negative changes which caused that benefit vs fee scale to tip, causing the fee to outweigh the benefits for me.

Another card has come and gone in my arsenal, but you have to make sure all your cards are working for you.

What retention offers have you received for the Business Platinum? Did you renew your card or did you cut it loose?

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After completing 6 years of pharmacy school, I finally had the time to travel. I started investigating ways to travel for less and when I redeemed my first award flight for my honeymoon, I knew I was hooked! Fast forward a couple of years and places I had never dreamed of visiting like Budapest, Honolulu, Bermuda and many other places where all within my reach, and for little to no money out of my pocket. Now, I have collected well over a million points and miles, and try to help people travel for less on their wallet.


  • I’ve redeemed over millions of MR points on 50% Business Platinum card the past 4 months. The 50% bonus has NEVER exceeded 33 days, typically it’s 30-31 days later, like clockwork. The secret is when you book your flight, use the Business Platinum card as your payment method, not one of your other Amex cards.

    • Hey UtahShane,

      I always used my Business Platinum at my method of payment.

      I’m always happy to hear when people are getting their points faster!

      Thanks for reading! I appreciate it!

  • When is the best time to call for the retention offer? After the annual fee posted or before the annual fee due date?

    • Hey Abc,

      I would typically say right around the fee date, or shortly after the fee post. I did this on my Delta Platinum card, but after PC to it the Delta Gold, I received a prorated portion of the fee only after 3 days of the fee posting. Not sure if this is standard by Amex now, but it so, I’d call before it post.

      You don’t want to pay for something you won’t use!

      Thanks for reading! I appreciate it!

  • Cancelled mine two days ago. Was able to get my usual 4X$50 Delta gift cards reimbursed just before the fee posted.
    Retention offer was 10,000 MR’s for keeping the card. No thanks.
    Keeping my personal Platinum. It’s actually a Morgan Stanley personal AMEX Plat with FREE second card for wifey. The $550 annual fee also gets reimbursed by Morgan Stanley for jumping thru some hoops as a client.

    • Hey Geoff,

      Yeah for 10k I still would have cancelled. The AU for free is awesome, but getting the fee reimbursed by Morgan Stanley is even better!

      Thanks for reading! I appreciate it!

  • My Retention Offer: 5,000 MRs immediately & 15,000 MRs if $10K spend is met in 90days. Exclusive of the 5,000 MRs, the effective 2.5x MRs on $10K is mediocre. 2.5x MRs on uncategorized spending is a hair better than 2x MRs with the AMEX Blue Biz Plus….for a whooping 5,000 MRs extra. Whoop-dee-doo. I did just burn through a mass of MRs for 2 Etihad Apartment redemptions so I was in the need for some MRs. I regret not attempting to negotiate, but 10K MRs is better than a stick in the eye. 😉

    • Hey Matty,

      Yeah, I’d agree 10k is better than a stick in the eye 🙂 . If you can hit the spend and planned on keeping the card, then it definitely does help replenish your MR account.

      Thanks for reading! I appreciate it!

    • Hey L3,

      On my Biz Platinum, I put around around $12k on the card. On all my Amex Biz cards, around $25k.

      I have no interest in using a card that earns 1x on purchases, nor 1.5x when I can earn 2x with my Blue Biz Plus. The Business Platinum is a card meant for the benefits. 🙂

      Thanks for reading! I appreciate it!

  • I feel they will eventually be forced to be less restrictive on the airline credits, and MR rebate policy. All of their competitors are more consumer friendly.

    • Hey Max,

      You would think so, but I think if American Express had the answer in their hands they still would mess it up. They can’t get out of their own way somethings.

      Thanks for reading! I appreciate it!

  • It appears that the post along with many of the comments are from what have you done for me today? I have had the PLT card since the beginning of 2000 and have no complaints over all. I burn 35 to 50 K per month in charges and they keep me happy. but then loyalty has its rewards not hackers

    Just saying

    • Hey Ghostrider,

      I don’t disagree, but I don’t put that much on this card. I don’t believe Amex truly values your loyalty. They value your money, so while they treat you well, I overall believe loyalty a one way road. That said, I like hearing when banks treat people well.

      Thanks for reading! I appreciate it!

  • Called yesterday – my retention offer was nothing. zip. zilch. nada. zero.
    I’m using my Global Entry credit today then cancelling.

    Also had issues with the 50% points rebate the one time I used it. After 12 weeks it still hadn’t posted, so I had to call and get them to post it manually. Very annoying.

    • Hey DJ,

      That would frustrate me! I already feel I call Amex too many times to get things corrected. If they could only have a department who could handle their rewards appropriately :-).

      Thanks for reading! I appreciate it!

  • I also signed up for this card last year and have the 50% rebate for another few months. I have some of the same gripes as you – the amount of time it takes to post the rebate is definitely a bummer (and clearly an adjustment Amex made to devalue the benefit). I do like that you earn 5X MR points on the full value of the airfare, even if you redeem points for all or part of the ticket. But for anything else the card isn’t very attractive for spend – Chase Sapphire Reserve et al are better for their very wide travel categories, which get 3X points. My customer service experience with Amex has been great; on a couple of issues where going strictly by the rules they could’ve said no, they resolved things in my favor. I’m unlikely to keep the card once I lose the 50% rebate, but I will continue to be an Amex customer.

    • I should mention that my most recent experience with the rebate (from a redemption in Nov 2017) was that it posted in about 4 weeks.

      • Hey O2nz,

        I have many reasons to keep banking with Amex too. Love those Amex offers and Amex holds a spot in my daily rotation.

        But I agree, while I value MR points, American Express does a horrible job in the earning categories for these premium cards. Very selective and rigid vs their competition who give more broad meanings. Someday Amex will learn, but they won’t if people keep paying the fee.

        Thanks for reading! I appreciate it!

        • 10k probably puts you in the median spend category so 7k miles may be a bit niggardly. You probably deserved better. Let’s see what others spent vs. their offers.

    • Hey ABC,

      If you value SPG points over 1.4 cpp, then I’d say worth it. SPG points are hard to earn and with Amex once per lifetime rule, it might be something you want to consider

    • I got the same offer and took it! 16000 Star Points gets you a night at the Westin Grand Cayman, just to give you an idea of their relative worth. It is a very fair offer.